As a Realtor, I see the YMCA as a big plus. It has strong brand recognition and doesn't require a lot of explaining to folks. I think in some cases it could push some bright people over the top to move here instead of somewhere else. Is it the only factor? No. But every extra positive factor we can put in play is only going to help us attract more educated folks who can add a lot to Payson and the surrounding area.
I'll try to take a look at school records at the local genealogical society the next time I'm down there. I'll also try to go through some newspaper clips, though I think that time period is a soft spot for them.
Certainly, I'd love to see the picture if you'd be willing to share.
It's going to be interesting to see how this comes about. For one thing, remember they're going to do this in phases. So as far vacant space, we'll probably see some but not anywhere near like it could be since they're not going to build more than phase one until they've got the sales.
This should be a great spark for Main Street, though I wonder about the price point. One of the real gems of Payson is the lakes at Green Valley Park. I've taken many a person down there, or shown them pictures that I've taken there, and they're just blown away. Most of them had no idea that Payson had a feature like that. You've got to figure that Hallie will be promoting that as part of her development, so Payson should come out really ahead in all of this over the run. However, folks should have cautious expectations of progress. Even Tempe's Town Lake has progressed slower with regards to development, than was initially expected.
The Phoenix area is getting a number of these and I think it is the wave of the future out west. Within 10 years I think it'll be a non-issue. Personally, I like the Home Depot roundabout. I much prefer that to a stoplight.
The rent is waaaaay too high and thankfully prospective renters are being smart enough to stay away until they come down. Just look at the amount of office space out there for rent, even along the highway. All too often someone comes in trying to do their "dream," but gets in a situation from the get-go where the rent is going to be unmanageable and prevent them from having success. The landlord gets paid, the tenant goes broke.
Mesa desperately needs a property tax. The East Valley Tribune recently had an article about their fire service. The figures showed them already on the bottom of towns in the Phoenix area, and they're getting their budget cut again. Mesa is how you mess up a town and it's going to cost them and take them time just to get in a better situation, though Riverview is a good start. You have to have a game plan and you have to be willing to invest in the future. Look at Tempe, Chandler, and Glendale. Those are models as far as town leadership goes.
The Overman project is a great example of a Payson failure. I think it's a brilliant concept if executed properly. In my opinion, it's probably the best shot at reviving Main Street. People living down there are needed and the more you put down the better chance you have. It'll also add a dimension to Payson that it doesn't currently have - a true place where you can live and then walk some places. Plus, that project will help utilize the Green Valley lakes that much more, which is one of the best quality of life features that Payson has. Hopefully this next town council will do everything they can to make that project happen as soon as possible.
I like the speed cameras, and I say that as someone who passes by them pretty much every day. They work. And if you're stupid enough to go 11 mph over the speed limit in a town area like Star Valley, you deserve the ticket. It's not unreasonable at all.
Why do people think that they have the right to break the law?
And as far as Payson goes, I think the only place that cameras might make sense is coming down the hill entering town from the casino. I can't think of anywhere else can y'all? Frankly, the thing I could see Payson cracking down on is the all jaywalking on the highway.
I believe Tempe schools also have the 35 mph speed li
It never ceases to amaze me how much you attack Realtors! After all, you're daughter is one, and is married into a family of builders. She vociferously supported Kenny Evans - all throughout the election I saw her consistently wearing a Kenny Evans button.
The key comment I have to say is something I noticed on election day. I really thought Kenny had about a 20% chance at best. But I was previewing property that day and kept noticing something - Evans had by far the most signs around in town. And a lot of those were at businesses, many of which have nothing to do with real estate. That was when I started to wonder if I was wrong about his lack of a chance. I firmly believe that the business community, not just the real estate community, got behind Kenny. Still though, if I had to point to one thing that swung the election, I would probably say the gas bills. I think there was perception that Kenny was more responsive on that than the mayor. Right? Wrong? I don't know, but I think it definitely played a factor and got some retirees who may have been on the fence to vote for Evans.
And Pat, the way you post, you 'ought to run for office. It reminds me of a quote from the movie The American President:
"Is the view pretty good from the cheap seats, A.J.? ... Because it occurs to me that in twenty five years I've never seen YOUR name on a ballot. Now why is that? Why are you always one step behind ME?"
If you know it all Pat, then why are you depriving us of your leadership?
I'm sure there are some who think it's hilarious for Edwards supporters to be trying to pin law breaking on others. I think that their viewpoint is that if Edwards hasn't broken laws, he's certainly pushed the line on all too many. So let's frame things up properly here. There are two distinct perspectives that folks have.
And when it comes to money, didn't Edwards run with far more money last time than did Barbara Brewer? I didn't hear Edwards supporters chalking the win up to that then. A note on that though too to be fair - I don't think that Barb did as good of a job fundraising then as she could have - I think that she got beaten down a bit much from all the personal attacks.
If you look at this election, I would say that there was a significant split between working people and retirees, and just enough retirees went to Kenny's side give him the win. How much of a role money played, I don't know. But this is the time for healing, for this community to start coming together behind the newly elected council. Let's let Kenny and the new council come in and see what they can do before berating them.
As I eat some crow here (yum), I want to say that I'm finding a lot of the posts here very insightful. I'd love to hear more highway construction stories and would be happy to sit down with anyone and get you on tape for the ages. I'm probably like most of the public - I don't understand what goes into it, I don't understand the process so much and where the questions are. It's very enlightening and interesting to me and the public needs an education.
I dislike coming across as some pansy city boy, though I understand where y'all are coming from. I live out in the woods, I don't have baseboard heating, relying on a wood fireplace in a small cabin instead. I seem to have a pipe freeze every winter or two so I feel I have some understanding although certainly not like what the old timers have.
I totally agree that the weather of the recent decade or two is not indicative of what we've had. If it goes back to "the way it was," I absolutely think that people are going to be shocked. Trust me, there are a lot of folks who are worse about it than me. A couple years ago cattle came back into my area. My neighbors had a hissy fit. They couldn't believe that it wasn't the ranchers job to fence them out and such. That was frustrating to me because I was thrilled to see the cattle. To me they're the most practical, cost-effective solution for keeping vegetation down and easing the fire threat. But these guys were insulted because they thought some rancher was getting rich off them, which was unbelievable.
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tehrhardt (Tim Ehrhardt) says…
As a Realtor, I see the YMCA as a big plus. It has strong brand recognition and doesn't require a lot of explaining to folks. I think in some cases it could push some bright people over the top to move here instead of somewhere else. Is it the only factor? No. But every extra positive factor we can put in play is only going to help us attract more educated folks who can add a lot to Payson and the surrounding area.
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13 July 2008 at 12:09 p.m.
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tehrhardt (Tim Ehrhardt) says…
Leeta,
I'll try to take a look at school records at the local genealogical society the next time I'm down there. I'll also try to go through some newspaper clips, though I think that time period is a soft spot for them.
Certainly, I'd love to see the picture if you'd be willing to share.
Cheers,
Tim
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15 June 2008 at 9:29 a.m.
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tehrhardt (Tim Ehrhardt) says…
It's going to be interesting to see how this comes about. For one thing, remember they're going to do this in phases. So as far vacant space, we'll probably see some but not anywhere near like it could be since they're not going to build more than phase one until they've got the sales.
This should be a great spark for Main Street, though I wonder about the price point. One of the real gems of Payson is the lakes at Green Valley Park. I've taken many a person down there, or shown them pictures that I've taken there, and they're just blown away. Most of them had no idea that Payson had a feature like that. You've got to figure that Hallie will be promoting that as part of her development, so Payson should come out really ahead in all of this over the run. However, folks should have cautious expectations of progress. Even Tempe's Town Lake has progressed slower with regards to development, than was initially expected.
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15 June 2008 at 9:24 a.m.
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The Phoenix area is getting a number of these and I think it is the wave of the future out west. Within 10 years I think it'll be a non-issue. Personally, I like the Home Depot roundabout. I much prefer that to a stoplight.
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15 April 2008 at 5:31 p.m.
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The rent is waaaaay too high and thankfully prospective renters are being smart enough to stay away until they come down. Just look at the amount of office space out there for rent, even along the highway. All too often someone comes in trying to do their "dream," but gets in a situation from the get-go where the rent is going to be unmanageable and prevent them from having success. The landlord gets paid, the tenant goes broke.
Mesa desperately needs a property tax. The East Valley Tribune recently had an article about their fire service. The figures showed them already on the bottom of towns in the Phoenix area, and they're getting their budget cut again. Mesa is how you mess up a town and it's going to cost them and take them time just to get in a better situation, though Riverview is a good start. You have to have a game plan and you have to be willing to invest in the future. Look at Tempe, Chandler, and Glendale. Those are models as far as town leadership goes.
The Overman project is a great example of a Payson failure. I think it's a brilliant concept if executed properly. In my opinion, it's probably the best shot at reviving Main Street. People living down there are needed and the more you put down the better chance you have. It'll also add a dimension to Payson that it doesn't currently have - a true place where you can live and then walk some places. Plus, that project will help utilize the Green Valley lakes that much more, which is one of the best quality of life features that Payson has. Hopefully this next town council will do everything they can to make that project happen as soon as possible.
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8 April 2008 at 8:02 p.m.
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Pat,
I hope you emailed them all of that - seriously. Those enviroMENTALists need a talking to. Take those folks on Pat!
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7 April 2008 at 5:31 p.m.
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I like the speed cameras, and I say that as someone who passes by them pretty much every day. They work. And if you're stupid enough to go 11 mph over the speed limit in a town area like Star Valley, you deserve the ticket. It's not unreasonable at all.
Why do people think that they have the right to break the law?
And as far as Payson goes, I think the only place that cameras might make sense is coming down the hill entering town from the casino. I can't think of anywhere else can y'all? Frankly, the thing I could see Payson cracking down on is the all jaywalking on the highway.
I believe Tempe schools also have the 35 mph speed li
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28 March 2008 at 7:21 p.m.
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Dean,
It never ceases to amaze me how much you attack Realtors! After all, you're daughter is one, and is married into a family of builders. She vociferously supported Kenny Evans - all throughout the election I saw her consistently wearing a Kenny Evans button.
The key comment I have to say is something I noticed on election day. I really thought Kenny had about a 20% chance at best. But I was previewing property that day and kept noticing something - Evans had by far the most signs around in town. And a lot of those were at businesses, many of which have nothing to do with real estate. That was when I started to wonder if I was wrong about his lack of a chance. I firmly believe that the business community, not just the real estate community, got behind Kenny. Still though, if I had to point to one thing that swung the election, I would probably say the gas bills. I think there was perception that Kenny was more responsive on that than the mayor. Right? Wrong? I don't know, but I think it definitely played a factor and got some retirees who may have been on the fence to vote for Evans.
And Pat, the way you post, you 'ought to run for office. It reminds me of a quote from the movie The American President:
"Is the view pretty good from the cheap seats, A.J.? ... Because it occurs to me that in twenty five years I've never seen YOUR name on a ballot. Now why is that? Why are you always one step behind ME?"
If you know it all Pat, then why are you depriving us of your leadership?
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28 March 2008 at 11:12 a.m.
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I'm sure there are some who think it's hilarious for Edwards supporters to be trying to pin law breaking on others. I think that their viewpoint is that if Edwards hasn't broken laws, he's certainly pushed the line on all too many. So let's frame things up properly here. There are two distinct perspectives that folks have.
And when it comes to money, didn't Edwards run with far more money last time than did Barbara Brewer? I didn't hear Edwards supporters chalking the win up to that then. A note on that though too to be fair - I don't think that Barb did as good of a job fundraising then as she could have - I think that she got beaten down a bit much from all the personal attacks.
If you look at this election, I would say that there was a significant split between working people and retirees, and just enough retirees went to Kenny's side give him the win. How much of a role money played, I don't know. But this is the time for healing, for this community to start coming together behind the newly elected council. Let's let Kenny and the new council come in and see what they can do before berating them.
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26 March 2008 at 8:05 a.m.
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As I eat some crow here (yum), I want to say that I'm finding a lot of the posts here very insightful. I'd love to hear more highway construction stories and would be happy to sit down with anyone and get you on tape for the ages. I'm probably like most of the public - I don't understand what goes into it, I don't understand the process so much and where the questions are. It's very enlightening and interesting to me and the public needs an education.
I dislike coming across as some pansy city boy, though I understand where y'all are coming from. I live out in the woods, I don't have baseboard heating, relying on a wood fireplace in a small cabin instead. I seem to have a pipe freeze every winter or two so I feel I have some understanding although certainly not like what the old timers have.
I totally agree that the weather of the recent decade or two is not indicative of what we've had. If it goes back to "the way it was," I absolutely think that people are going to be shocked. Trust me, there are a lot of folks who are worse about it than me. A couple years ago cattle came back into my area. My neighbors had a hissy fit. They couldn't believe that it wasn't the ranchers job to fence them out and such. That was frustrating to me because I was thrilled to see the cattle. To me they're the most practical, cost-effective solution for keeping vegetation down and easing the fire threat. But these guys were insulted because they thought some rancher was getting rich off them, which was unbelievable.
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