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Looks like the power brokers are winning again! Yesterday's Super Tuesday worked exactly the way it was planned and expedited by the media robots.
McCain and his appointed VP won in the areas projected and Hillary/Obama will hold media attention until August (or maybe a little before).McCain will select Huckabee as his VP as soon as Huck gives his delegates to the Rinocrat nominee at the convention.
Obama will select Hillary (if she will agree to be less than Empress) as his choice for VP.
So we are back to a one party system.
Bah humbug.
The amount of money spent on this farce would do a lot of good if used to feed the hungry or provide educational grants for low income students who are worthy. In fact for almost anything other than wasted on politicians.
I'm not so sure that Obama would pick Hillary as a running mate. She might pick him, as she'll have a large portion of the democratic party to win over.
Wonder if McCain might pick Lieberman. One could argue that it would be a "mixed" ticket, but Lieberman really is more republican than either democrat or independent.
I'm curious, Ruby. Who would you like to see in the White House, if none from either of the two major parties?
That would complete the circle - every one on the ticket would be a democrat. That's a choice?
If it were on the ballot, I would vote none of the above. I think our system is in a pathetic state when every candidate is a clone.
We desperately need someone who has a real love for the country and who chooses to run and listen to the people, to attempt to do what is best FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY not just what the "party" would like done. Someone to take our assets off the auction block and tell nations NO unless a trade agreement benefits our country, too.
Being a "melting pot" is fine, but a third world country is NOT. Our country is not well served with open borders and every candidate on the current slate favors amnesty for 20 million people. Take the time to go to Central Los Angeles and see what am third world country looks like.
I'm sorry -- guess I didn't answer your question as to who I would like to see in the White House if not the annointed ones.
As you know, there is no one, other than Bloomberg, who is poised to step in and run. The problem is the cost of running and without the support of a major party most people can't do it.
There was only one potential candidate I would have voted for on the Republican slate and that was Duncan Hunter who is closer to a statesman than others on the original ticket.
Because of the pecking order of power in both major parties, the same power brokers run our country.
I believe the system is broken and want Thomas Jefferson to come back and fix it.Where is he when we really need him?
You mean like Pelosi and Reid herding the cats? The congress needs a good cleaning out too. Trouble is if they resign or lose their seat, they simply move over to a plush salary with a lobbying firm. Yes, just like Trent Lott did!
Ruby, I 'hear' what you're saying; but I'd hardly call any of the republicans running (or Lieberman) even close to being democrats.
Obama is the best option, hands down, in my opinion.
No one is going to be able to "fix" this country in four years, or eight. It will take years to recover from the disastrous running of this country over the past 7 years. Even Thomas Jefferson wouldn't be able to do it more quickly.
Not only do we need a president who isn't governed by his/her party, but we need a Congress that actually does something.
If anyone wishes to have a quick overview of where the current candidates stand on the issues, go to cnn.com. You will find the option of clicking on a link to see where the candidates stand.
I did. It reinforced my opinion that I will not vote for McCain. Period.
Obama remains my first choice. Hillary, by default, is my second choice. I base this decision on the issues that are most important to me, NOT in order of importance: health care, environment, stem cell research, education, guns, Iraq, abortion, social security.
To all who seem to find immigration as the primary issue, there isn't much difference among all the candidates.
Susan, you bring up some very interesting points to consider. I'm curious, since this post of yours on Feb. 9th - and with Ohio, Texas and RI holding their primaries today, have you altered your position at all? Did you watch the debate last Tues between Hill and Obama? And what was your take on it?
I know, I know - a lot of questions here, but I love politics and following this historical election year. It's exciting to watch it unfold. Ohio will be very interesting as the polls yesterday showed that Hill & Obama were running very close.
Jane, no, I haven't altered my position. From the very beginning of this long campaign, I have said that there wasn't a republican in the bunch, for whom I would vote. That certainly hasn't changed.
Yes, I watched the debate - thought it was a toss-up, with the edge to Obama. Hillary's whining gave the edge to Obama, for me.
I've grown tired of the campaign and find myself turning to Animal Planet, rather than listen to the political coverage. Political pundits love this very long campaign, of course. For the most part, I've grown tired of them, too. They have said some interesting things, though.
One pundit said, and I don't remember which one, that if Obama had lost 13 primaries in a row - or any other candidate for that matter - he would have been considered 'toast', and Hillary would have been considered the presumptive nominee.
Any number have talked about what happens, or should happen, if Hillary doesn't win big today. More than a few have said that Hillary should end her candidacy, protect her legacy, and that she could very likely become the Senate majority leader. Others have said that indications from the Clinton camp are that she will continue on, regardless of today's outcome. Some think she should, while others see it as no different than Huckabee continuing one when it seems certain (obvious) that McCain will be the republican nominee.
Still others believe that Hillary needs to get out to keep unity within the democratic party.
So, who the heck knows? After NH, we shouldn't give too much weight to the polls.
Susan, I so agree with you that the loooooooooong political arena of this particular race seems that it has been going on forevvvvvvvvvvvvvver!
I did watch the primary results last night, and I felt that I was watching history - at one point Obama and Hill were only 100 votes away. I HOPE this will enlighten people to understand that THEIR vote is crucial, regardless of which way they choose to vote. So many are apathetic about voting and assume the attitude of "does it matter?" Well, last night's Texas primary should be a wake-up call for this question, don't you agree?
McCain - *sigh* - I suppose the third time's the charm. I hear rumor of him selecting Condeleza as his V.P. Now, SHE is brilliant - which most people don't get about her. An MBA by the age of 23? Pretty awesome in my book. So, don't you think it would be interesting IF Hill DID get the nomination, chose Obama for her V.P. and McCain had Rice as his V.P. choice?
Either way it goes, it's such a historical election year, and very exciting to watch!
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Posted by Ruby_Finney (Ruby Finney) on February 6, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Looks like the power brokers are winning again! Yesterday's Super Tuesday worked exactly the way it was planned and expedited by the media robots.
McCain and his appointed VP won in the areas projected and Hillary/Obama will hold media attention until August (or maybe a little before).McCain will select Huckabee as his VP as soon as Huck gives his delegates to the Rinocrat nominee at the convention.
Obama will select Hillary (if she will agree to be less than Empress) as his choice for VP.
So we are back to a one party system.
Bah humbug.
The amount of money spent on this farce would do a lot of good if used to feed the hungry or provide educational grants for low income students who are worthy.
In fact for almost anything other than wasted on politicians.
I'm saving for my move to Australia!
Posted by patrandall (pat Randall) on February 6, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I am embarresed that McCain claims to be from Arizona.
Posted by llandproud (Susan Grubbs) on February 6, 2008 at 11:27 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I'm not so sure that Obama would pick Hillary as a running mate. She might pick him, as she'll have a large portion of the democratic party to win over.
Wonder if McCain might pick Lieberman. One could argue that it would be a "mixed" ticket, but Lieberman really is more republican than either democrat or independent.
I'm curious, Ruby. Who would you like to see in the White House, if none from either of the two major parties?
Posted by Ruby_Finney (Ruby Finney) on February 6, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Susan,
That would complete the circle - every one on the ticket would be a democrat. That's a choice?
If it were on the ballot, I would vote none of the above. I think our system is in a pathetic state when every candidate is a clone.
We desperately need someone who has a real love for the country and who chooses to run and listen to the people, to attempt to do what is best FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY not just what the "party" would like done. Someone to take our assets off the auction block and tell nations NO unless a trade agreement benefits our country, too.
Being a "melting pot" is fine, but a third world country is NOT. Our country is not well served with open borders and every candidate on the current slate favors amnesty for 20 million people. Take the time to go to Central Los Angeles and see what am third world country looks like.
Posted by Ruby_Finney (Ruby Finney) on February 6, 2008 at 1:50 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Susan,
I'm sorry -- guess I didn't answer your question as to who I would like to see in the White House if not the annointed ones.
As you know, there is no one, other than Bloomberg, who is poised to step in and run. The problem is the cost of running and without the support of a major party most people can't do it.
There was only one potential candidate I would have voted for on the Republican slate and that was Duncan Hunter who is closer to a statesman than others on the original ticket.
Because of the pecking order of power in both major parties, the same power brokers run our country.
I believe the system is broken and want Thomas Jefferson to come back and fix it.Where is he when we really need him?
Posted by Ruby_Finney (Ruby Finney) on February 6, 2008 at 3:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You mean like Pelosi and Reid herding the cats? The congress needs a good cleaning out too. Trouble is if they resign or lose their seat, they simply move over to a plush salary with a lobbying firm. Yes, just like Trent Lott did!
Posted by llandproud (Susan Grubbs) on February 6, 2008 at 3:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Ruby, I 'hear' what you're saying; but I'd hardly call any of the republicans running (or Lieberman) even close to being democrats.
Obama is the best option, hands down, in my opinion.
No one is going to be able to "fix" this country in four years, or eight. It will take years to recover from the disastrous running of this country over the past 7 years. Even Thomas Jefferson wouldn't be able to do it more quickly.
Not only do we need a president who isn't governed by his/her party, but we need a Congress that actually does something.
Posted by llandproud (Susan Grubbs) on February 9, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
If anyone wishes to have a quick overview of where the current candidates stand on the issues, go to cnn.com. You will find the option of clicking on a link to see where the candidates stand.
I did. It reinforced my opinion that I will not vote for McCain. Period.
Obama remains my first choice. Hillary, by default, is my second choice. I base this decision on the issues that are most important to me, NOT in order of importance: health care, environment, stem cell research, education, guns, Iraq, abortion, social security.
To all who seem to find immigration as the primary issue, there isn't much difference among all the candidates.
Posted by AZangel99 (Jane Wilcox) on March 4, 2008 at 6:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Susan, you bring up some very interesting points to consider. I'm curious, since this post of yours on Feb. 9th - and with Ohio, Texas and RI holding their primaries today, have you altered your position at all? Did you watch the debate last Tues between Hill and Obama? And what was your take on it?
I know, I know - a lot of questions here, but I love politics and following this historical election year. It's exciting to watch it unfold. Ohio will be very interesting as the polls yesterday showed that Hill & Obama were running very close.
Posted by llandproud (Susan Grubbs) on March 4, 2008 at 7:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Jane, no, I haven't altered my position. From the very beginning of this long campaign, I have said that there wasn't a republican in the bunch, for whom I would vote. That certainly hasn't changed.
Yes, I watched the debate - thought it was a toss-up, with the edge to Obama. Hillary's whining gave the edge to Obama, for me.
I've grown tired of the campaign and find myself turning to Animal Planet, rather than listen to the political coverage. Political pundits love this very long campaign, of course. For the most part, I've grown tired of them, too. They have said some interesting things, though.
One pundit said, and I don't remember which one, that if Obama had lost 13 primaries in a row - or any other candidate for that matter - he would have been considered 'toast', and Hillary would have been considered the presumptive nominee.
Any number have talked about what happens, or should happen, if Hillary doesn't win big today. More than a few have said that Hillary should end her candidacy, protect her legacy, and that she could very likely become the Senate majority leader. Others have said that indications from the Clinton camp are that she will continue on, regardless of today's outcome. Some think she should, while others see it as no different than Huckabee continuing one when it seems certain (obvious) that McCain will be the republican nominee.
Still others believe that Hillary needs to get out to keep unity within the democratic party.
So, who the heck knows? After NH, we shouldn't give too much weight to the polls.
Posted by AZangel99 (Jane Wilcox) on March 5, 2008 at 6:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Susan, I so agree with you that the loooooooooong political arena of this particular race seems that it has been going on forevvvvvvvvvvvvvver!
I did watch the primary results last night, and I felt that I was watching history - at one point Obama and Hill were only 100 votes away. I HOPE this will enlighten people to understand that THEIR vote is crucial, regardless of which way they choose to vote. So many are apathetic about voting and assume the attitude of "does it matter?" Well, last night's Texas primary should be a wake-up call for this question, don't you agree?
McCain - *sigh* - I suppose the third time's the charm. I hear rumor of him selecting Condeleza as his V.P. Now, SHE is brilliant - which most people don't get about her. An MBA by the age of 23? Pretty awesome in my book. So, don't you think it would be interesting IF Hill DID get the nomination, chose Obama for her V.P. and McCain had Rice as his V.P. choice?
Either way it goes, it's such a historical election year, and very exciting to watch!
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