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NO ONE should call into the radio station and say there is a lockdown at the school. If they don't know which school they put a lot of stress on a lot of parents and it doesn't help anything. Probably ties up all the phone lines to all the schools. I was not concerned for my grandchild even after I found out it was at the H.S. as he was in the hospital, but if he hadn't been I would have been alarmed. I was concerned for the rest of the kids.
Secrecy in who they were looking for and not printing it later or releasing information.. Ha! by 2:00 P.M I knew the kids name, grade etc. Who do the police and school think they are fooling?
Kids with cell phones were texting their parents throughout the lockdown and after it was lifted.
I know that the high school was locked down. My husband had heard that the middle school was.
I don't think that it is wrong to get the word out that there is a lockdown, Pat. Better that the parents hear about it, I believe. My kids are grown, but I would have wanted to know, regardless of how much - or little - information was available about the specifics.
Cell phones should be outlawed at school. Very disruptive. How much did the kids know to tell thier parents except maybe to tell them they were alright, which wouldn't be a bad thing. OK I have lost it. I am arguing with my self. (: I disagree about announcing the lock down without telling which school. I think they finally locked down all of them.
Pat, as long as the students aren't using them in class, I don't see a problem with the kids having cell phones. My kids always took their phones with them, but put them on "silent" while they were in school. If they hadn't, the phones would have been taken away. Some kids did try to get away with using their cell phones during school, and the phones were taken away.
I wonder how many details we will read in the paper about this last event at the high school? After all it is our money that is paying for all the Police, DPS, and Sheriffs office personnel and equipment that goes out to the lockdowns. If there was nothing to the reporting that someone had a gun, what will happen to the person or persons who reported it?
I think the school and paper did a good job of reporting the lockdown of the schools. From what I heard from a student, this boy needs medical and mental help. NOW Not after someone is hurt or killed. Maybe if he had had the care before none of this would have happened, and this was a cry for help. No I don't know the boy personally. I do know his name and grade.
We keep hearing there is no problem with gangs and/ or drugs in the schools. I have 4 grandkids that graduated here in Payson and they have told me that given 15 minutes they could get almost any drug of thier choice at school from the 5th grade on up. Now folks that is scarey.. Parents keep your prescription drugs locked away. Once your child takes one pill out of the bottle and into his/her pocket they become illegal drugs. Some very expensive and dangerous.
Did anyone read the letter to the editor in the Jan 31 Gazette,by Melody Fisher?. That lady was informed as she deals with it all the time. Also the coment about what the Phoenix P D think about us up here.You can see the gang grafitti on a lots of things up here and I don't think the adults are doing it I agree with getting the cell phones out of the schools along with calculaters.Has any one noticed the the majority of kids can not make change or count money back to you unless they have one of the computer.cash drawers.
They can't even tie thier shoes because of velcro or tell time if the clock or watch has regular numbers and 2 hands. When my oldest grand daughter first moved up here into Geraldine's house they had a rotary phone and Amber was totally lost. She didn't know how to dial the phone. She needed buttons to push. some of them even have trouble counting the money with the register telling them the amount of change. I had a cashier at Walmart that had a terrible time the other day and she was at least 50yrs old.
Had a sixth-grader, who was ordering her own phone on Sunday, tell me that at least one of her friends "texts all day."
Don't know the facts, but our conversation indicated to me that kids keep their phones during school. Worth looking into. A great job for you; I am too busy being a full-time student, myself at the college. We MUST turn off our phones in class.
Pat, start asking the schools and the businesses to teach and require cashiers to count the change backwards, the old fashioned way. It's fun, healthy for the brain, and assures accuracy. Cost me five bucks once when I was running a cash register. You can guess why. And how can you use a calculator if you don't already know your times tables? How do you know you hit the right buttons?
Some of that common sense, again.
By the way, I remember while videoing the previous council that a cell phone would go off occasionally. How disruptive and embarrassing. Wondered why a council member would not have sense enough to inform people that they would be unavailable that evening, much less have sense enough to turn it off.
And what about the callers? Now you can use the word "stupid." It would fit. Has it ever happened recently? You would know.
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Posted by patrandall (pat Randall) on January 30, 2008 at 3:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
NO ONE should call into the radio station and say there is a lockdown at the school. If they don't know which school they put a lot of stress on a lot of parents and it doesn't help anything. Probably ties up all the phone lines to all the schools.
I was not concerned for my grandchild even after I found out it was at the H.S. as he was in the hospital, but if he hadn't been I would have been alarmed. I was concerned for the rest of the kids.
Secrecy in who they were looking for and not printing it later or releasing information.. Ha! by 2:00 P.M I knew the kids name, grade etc.
Who do the police and school think they are fooling?
Posted by llandproud (Susan Grubbs) on January 30, 2008 at 4:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Kids with cell phones were texting their parents throughout the lockdown and after it was lifted.
I know that the high school was locked down. My husband had heard that the middle school was.
I don't think that it is wrong to get the word out that there is a lockdown, Pat. Better that the parents hear about it, I believe. My kids are grown, but I would have wanted to know, regardless of how much - or little - information was available about the specifics.
Posted by patrandall (pat Randall) on January 30, 2008 at 6:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Cell phones should be outlawed at school. Very disruptive. How much did the kids know to tell thier parents except maybe to tell them they were alright, which wouldn't be a bad thing. OK I have lost it. I am arguing with my self. (:
I disagree about announcing the lock down without telling which school. I think they finally locked down all of them.
Posted by llandproud (Susan Grubbs) on January 30, 2008 at 7:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Pat, as long as the students aren't using them in class, I don't see a problem with the kids having cell phones. My kids always took their phones with them, but put them on "silent" while they were in school. If they hadn't, the phones would have been taken away. Some kids did try to get away with using their cell phones during school, and the phones were taken away.
Posted by patrandall (pat Randall) on January 30, 2008 at 8:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
no remarks about me arguing with myself?
Posted by llandproud (Susan Grubbs) on January 30, 2008 at 8:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Nah. Been known to do it myself. Only difference is that I'm the only one who knows when I do argue with myself. : )
Posted by patrandall (pat Randall) on February 1, 2008 at 11:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I wonder how many details we will read in the paper about this last event at the high school?
After all it is our money that is paying for all the Police, DPS, and Sheriffs office personnel and equipment that goes out to the lockdowns.
If there was nothing to the reporting that someone had a gun, what will happen to the person or persons who reported it?
Posted by patrandall (pat Randall) on February 2, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I think the school and paper did a good job of reporting the lockdown of the schools.
From what I heard from a student, this boy needs medical and mental help. NOW Not after someone is hurt or killed.
Maybe if he had had the care before none of this would have happened, and this was a cry for help.
No I don't know the boy personally.
I do know his name and grade.
We keep hearing there is no problem with gangs and/ or drugs in the schools.
I have 4 grandkids that graduated here in Payson and they have told me that given 15 minutes they could get almost any drug of thier choice at school from the 5th grade on up. Now folks that is scarey..
Parents keep your prescription drugs locked away. Once your child takes one pill out of the bottle and into his/her pocket they become illegal drugs. Some very expensive and dangerous.
Posted by hot1 (marylou HAUGHT) on February 2, 2008 at 12:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Did anyone read the letter to the editor in the Jan 31 Gazette,by Melody Fisher?. That lady was informed as she deals with it all the time. Also the coment about what the Phoenix P D think about us up here.You can see the gang grafitti on a lots of things up here and I don't think the adults are doing it I agree with getting the cell phones out of the schools along with calculaters.Has any one noticed the the majority of kids can not make change or count money back to you unless they have one of the computer.cash drawers.
Posted by patrandall (pat Randall) on February 2, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
They can't even tie thier shoes because of velcro or tell time if the clock or watch has regular numbers and 2 hands. When my oldest grand daughter first moved up here into Geraldine's house they had a rotary phone and Amber was totally lost. She didn't know how to dial the phone. She needed buttons to push.
some of them even have trouble counting the money with the register telling them the amount of change. I had a cashier at Walmart that had a terrible time the other day and she was at least 50yrs old.
Posted by miguel (Paul Hutchison) on February 6, 2008 at 8:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Had a sixth-grader, who was ordering her own phone on Sunday, tell me that at least one of her friends "texts all day."
Don't know the facts, but our conversation indicated to me that kids keep their phones during school. Worth looking into. A great job for you; I am too busy being a full-time student, myself at the college. We MUST turn off our phones in class.
Pat, start asking the schools and the businesses to teach and require cashiers to count the change backwards, the old fashioned way. It's fun, healthy for the brain, and assures accuracy. Cost me five bucks once when I was running a cash register. You can guess why. And how can you use a calculator if you don't already know your times tables? How do you know you hit the right buttons?
Some of that common sense, again.
By the way, I remember while videoing the previous council that a cell phone would go off occasionally. How disruptive and embarrassing. Wondered why a council member would not have sense enough to inform people that they would be unavailable that evening, much less have sense enough to turn it off.
And what about the callers? Now you can use the word "stupid." It would fit.
Has it ever happened recently? You would know.
Posted by patrandall (pat Randall) on February 6, 2008 at 9:16 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Paul,
You are certainly busy on here tonight.
I think the word for the councilors leaving thier phones on is rude not stupid. (:
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