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Two articles in Tuesdays paper. One was about donations for materials for the elementary schools and the other about Spanish transalators for students registering in high school. What and who were the materials donated for? What is wrong with this picture? We have to have people donate materials for the schools but we PAY for a Spanish transalator to register kids in high school. If they are in high school and cannot speak english maybe they do not belong here. Why only Spanish transalators? Do they register under the same rules as other students? Current immunization records, a copy of his/her birth certificate and proof of withdrawal from the last school attended? When my niece moved to Mexico and started school she had to learn spanish on her own. No transalators for her.
I sure am bothered about this, but it is part of the big mess we are in because of the open border situation. I can't remember when, but many years ago, the supreme court said the US has to educate all children, even though they aren't legally here, so the rush continued. I have seen reports on TV news magazines showing the kids crossing the border south of Yuma to get on the school buses for a free ride to the free education and probably the free lunch, then going back home each afternoon on the school bus again. Apparently if their parents maintain a P.O. Box in the US they can be registered.
The language problem was fixed I thought when Arizona voted for English as the official language. But the schools encourage special classes for "English as a second language" because special teachers (Spanish speaking) are required to be added to staff. Montessori Schools have proven repeatedly that language immersion is the fastest most efficient way to learn a language, but the teacher's unions are very powerful in the world of politics.
Did anyone notice in the article about school registration, in this Fridays paper there was no mention of a transalator? I wonder why??? Did the school change thier mind?
Funny David, I knew that. I just wondered why they changed the article in the paper. If the parents have been here long enough to have kids in high school they should be bilingual. Don't we have a law all business is to be conducted in ENGLISH? We need to stop printing everything from peanut butter labels to ballots in Spanish.
Pat, I thought that state business had to be English only. I don't see how private companies (makers of peanut butter) can be forced to do business in English only.
I didn't say the peanut butter co. should be forced into it. Just do it . This is America, we speak english here, the ones that belong. Go into Food City food store in the valley, a lot of the canned goods are canned in Mexico and if there isn't a picture or you can read spanish, you won't know what is in the can. llandproud, I am not going to argue about language or illegals with you. They don't belong here, they broke the law getting here. They are criminals, crowding our schools, medical facilities and whatever other freebie they can get while we pay for it. Try getting your kid into college in California with out paying for it. ' Nough' said !
Not defensive, mad as hell. We usually start out nice and then end up arguing so I made the comment I wouldn't argue with you. I am trying to play nice and it ain't easy after spending 3 days in the valley, going to Drs. and gov. offices and hearing more spanish and other forgien languages than english. Was in the Corp. Commission and standing next to me were two men getting a business incorporated. One was carrying a Hebrew/English dictionary so he could talk to get his papers filled out.
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Posted by patrandall (pat Randall) on July 11, 2007 at 2:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Two articles in Tuesdays paper.
One was about donations for materials for the elementary schools and the other about Spanish transalators for students registering in high school.
What and who were the materials donated for?
What is wrong with this picture?
We have to have people donate materials for the schools but we PAY for a Spanish transalator to register kids in high school.
If they are in high school and cannot speak english maybe they do not belong here. Why only Spanish transalators?
Do they register under the same rules as other students? Current immunization records, a copy of his/her birth certificate and proof of withdrawal from the last school attended?
When my niece moved to Mexico and started school she had to learn spanish on her own. No transalators for her.
Posted by patrandall (pat Randall) on July 12, 2007 at 9:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Does this not bother anyone but me?
Are you afraid you will lose your housekeeper, baby sitters or landscaper if thier children aren't catered to ?
Posted by Ruby_Finney (Ruby Finney) on July 12, 2007 at 11:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Pat,
I sure am bothered about this, but it is part of the big mess we are in because of the open border situation. I can't remember when, but many years ago, the supreme court said the US has to educate all children, even though they aren't legally here, so the rush continued. I have seen reports on TV news magazines showing the kids crossing the border south of Yuma to get on the school buses for a free ride to the free education and probably the free lunch, then going back home each afternoon on the school bus again. Apparently if their parents maintain a P.O. Box in the US they can be registered.
The language problem was fixed I thought when Arizona voted for English as the official language. But the schools encourage special classes for "English as a second language" because special teachers (Spanish speaking) are required to be added to staff. Montessori Schools have proven repeatedly that language immersion is the fastest most efficient way to learn a language, but the teacher's unions are very powerful in the world of politics.
Posted by patrandall (pat Randall) on July 22, 2007 at 9:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Did anyone notice in the article about school registration, in this Fridays paper there was no mention of a transalator?
I wonder why??? Did the school change thier mind?
Posted by david_vaughn (David Vaughn) on July 23, 2007 at 7:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I believe the translators are mainly for parents who are not yet bilingual.
Posted by patrandall (pat Randall) on July 23, 2007 at 9:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Funny David,
I knew that. I just wondered why they changed the article in the paper.
If the parents have been here long enough to have kids in high school they should be bilingual.
Don't we have a law all business is to be conducted in ENGLISH?
We need to stop printing everything from peanut butter labels to ballots in Spanish.
Posted by llandproud (Susan Grubbs) on July 23, 2007 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Pat, I thought that state business had to be English only. I don't see how private companies (makers of peanut butter) can be forced to do business in English only.
Posted by patrandall (pat Randall) on July 25, 2007 at 6:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I didn't say the peanut butter co. should be forced into it. Just do it . This is America, we speak english here, the ones that belong.
Go into Food City food store in the valley, a lot of the canned goods are canned in Mexico and if there isn't a picture or you can read spanish, you won't know what is in the can.
llandproud, I am not going to argue about language or illegals with you.
They don't belong here, they broke the law getting here. They are criminals, crowding our schools, medical facilities and whatever other freebie they can get while we pay for it. Try getting your kid into college in California with out paying for it. ' Nough' said !
Posted by llandproud (Susan Grubbs) on July 25, 2007 at 6:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Gee, Pat, you're a bit defensive, dontcha think?
I haven't made any comments about the issue of illegal aliens to date and I don't plan to start now.
Posted by patrandall (pat Randall) on July 25, 2007 at 6:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Not defensive, mad as hell.
We usually start out nice and then end up arguing so I made the comment I wouldn't argue with you.
I am trying to play nice and it ain't easy after spending 3 days in the valley, going to Drs. and gov. offices and hearing more spanish and other forgien languages than english.
Was in the Corp. Commission and standing next to me were two men getting a business incorporated. One was carrying a Hebrew/English dictionary so he could talk to get his papers filled out.
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